Liquid System Advise - CPU-370, PMP-450/S, HX-CU720V?

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Liquid System Advise - CPU-370, PMP-450/S, HX-CU720V?

Postby Thaitje » Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:58 am

Hello,

I'm new to Liquid Cooling.
I want to Liquid cool my CPU, and GPU.
I read some instructions and saw that you need basic stuff to watercool.
1. Reservoir
2. Pump
3. Radiator
4. Blocks (CPU & GPU)
5. Nozzles, Fittings and Tubings

I was searching on Koolance.com and this is what i believe the best solution is for Liquid parts.
1. Reservoir - 60x200mm, 397ml BDY-TK200
2. Pump - PMP-450 or PMP-450S
3. Radiator 2x120mm, 30-FPI Copper
4. CPU - CPU-370 1.5mm Midplate GPU - VID-AR685
5. Nozzles - Nozzle Pair, Barb 3x, Nozzle Pair, Swivel Angled x 3 (All ID 10mm, OD 13mm) Tubing Black PVC 3Ft in case from mistakes i have plenty tubes.

Will this setup systeem work enough to waterflow the whole pc?
Because i thought maby it isn't enough to cool the whole system.
If anybody has a better solution or any comment your welcome.
I hope you can help me with my Liquid Cooling System so i can enjoy a quite system and good OC abilties.

THANKS ALOT

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Re: Liquid System Advise - CPU-370, PMP-450/S, HX-CU720V?

Postby Ace0751 » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:04 pm

Everything looks good but my suggestion is you might want to get compression nozzles instead of barbed, the tubing will hold a lot better with compression. The swivel are fine and again do not get the barbed kind trust me on this. Always get more tubing than you need I was say 7-8ft of tubing so if you screw up you will have plenty to use. Also pick up more than one bottle of coolant having extra coolant is a good thing. And instead of a 2x120 try a 3x120 or 3x140 if you have the room with a single 120 on the side if you have the space. Also you might want to look into getting a couple pairs of no spill quick disconnects (QDCs). It will help you drain the system and their is a method on doing that or you can just get the drain valve. Remember do not get the barbed QDCs and make sure you get the right ones something like this: https://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/ ... uct_id=879 and https://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/ ... uct_id=884. Hope this info helps you out. Might want to pick up a couple more pairs of the compression nozzles so like 5 pairs would be comfortable.
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Re: Liquid System Advise - CPU-370, PMP-450/S, HX-CU720V?

Postby Tuthsok » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:07 pm

Am at work so don't have time to go over everything you list but I did notice that your "#1" only lists the body of the reservoir (BDY-TK200)

Your would also need at least the top (COV-TKTOP) and a bottom (COV-TKBTM) to create a full reservoir unit. If you wanted to incorporate the pump into the reservoir unit you would use this (COV-RP450) for the bottom instead of (COV-TKBTM) which works with the PMP-450 or PMP-450S which you list as wanting to use.

When putting something together note that all pieces should be either 60mm or 80mm OD. The pump base only seems to be available for a 60mm OD unit.

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Re: Liquid System Advise - CPU-370, PMP-450/S, HX-CU720V?

Postby Ace0751 » Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:38 pm

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Re: Liquid System Advise - CPU-370, PMP-450/S, HX-CU720V?

Postby Thaitje » Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:02 pm

Thanks both of you.

I have some quick questions.

Ace0751, your comment about Barb and Compression was indeed right.
Other people i know also say that Compression better is for Liquid Cooling so thanks for your confirmation.
I also didn't type all the stuff in it like you Coolant.
I want to get te Corsair 650D or the 800D, so thats a suitable case for water cooling and cable managment.
But how do you mean get 3x120 or a 3x140 Radiator?
Place one 2x140 on the top and one 1x120 on the rear?
Can you explain it please, cause it will help my configuration better.
Thanks alot.

Tuthsok,
Thank you too for remind me that i most have a TOP and A Bottom for the reservoir.
But if i get the COV-RP450 for on the bottom do i still need a extra pump?
Or is that COV-RP450 combine with the PMP-450/PMP-450S enough for the whole system you think?
I also saw that boty PMP-450/S are 13ID, isn't bothering other parts?
Or must i get Nozzles with 13ID instead of the 10ID i have in my list?
Thanks again

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Re: Liquid System Advise - CPU-370, PMP-450/S, HX-CU720V?

Postby Thaitje » Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:31 pm

Btw this is what i got so far thanks to your help.

1x BDY-TK200 Reservoir Body, 60x200mm (WxL), 393ml
1x COV-RP450 Pump Nozzle & Reservoir Base for PMP-450/S (60mm OD)
1x COV-TKTOP Reservoir Top with Fill Port (60mm OD)
1x PMP-450S Pump, PMP-450S [13mm, 1/2" ID]
1x HX-CU1402V Radiator, 2x140mm 30-FPI Copper [no nozzles]
1x CPU-370 CPU-370 (CPU), 1.5mm Midplate [no nozzles]
1x VID-AR685 VID-AR685 (Radeon HD 6850) [no nozzles]
4x NZL-V13P Nozzle Pair, Compression [For ID: 13mm (1/2"), OD: 16mm (5/8")]
2x NZL-L13P Nozzle Pair, Swivel Angled [For ID: 13mm (1/2"), OD: 16mm (5/8")]
7x HOS-13BK Tubing, Black PVC, 1ft/30.5cm [ID: 13mm (1/2"); OD: 16mm (5/8")]
2x VL3N-M13S QDC (High Flow) No-Spill Shutoff, Male [For ID: 13mm (1/2"), OD: 16mm (5/8")]
2x VL3N-F13S QDC (High Flow) No-Spill Shutoff, Female [For ID: 13mm (1/2"), OD: 16mm (5/8")]
2x LIQ-702CL-B Liquid Coolant Bottle, High-Performance, 700mL (Colorless)

Are fans needed? Probaly it does. If so i put some later.
If i miss something or some parts you think might be replaced just say it.

Another BIG THANKS.

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Re: Liquid System Advise - CPU-370, PMP-450/S, HX-CU720V?

Postby Tuthsok » Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:58 pm

Thaitje wrote:
Tuthsok,
Thank you too for remind me that i most have a TOP and A Bottom for the reservoir.
But if i get the COV-RP450 for on the bottom do i still need a extra pump?
Or is that COV-RP450 combine with the PMP-450/PMP-450S enough for the whole system you think?
I also saw that boty PMP-450/S are 13ID, isn't bothering other parts?
Or must i get Nozzles with 13ID instead of the 10ID i have in my list?
Thanks again


Yes you will still need a pump as the COV-RP450 does not come with a pump. You need to take the pump out of the factory top and install it into the res bottom. You can then add whatever fittings (compression/barb) to match the tubing.

Check out the manual for this product... http://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/p ... ct_id=2025 (the "manual" link right under the product picture). Taking apart the pump and attaching it to the res is similar to what you would need to do with a COV-RP450.

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Re: Liquid System Advise - CPU-370, PMP-450/S, HX-CU720V?

Postby Ace0751 » Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:10 pm

When I say 3x120 or 3x140 I mean its a single rad but it can fit either 3 120mm fans or 3 140mm fans here is an example: https://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/ ... uct_id=815. If you get the 800D case you can fit that radiator on top. And you NEED fans for the rads cause the heat needs to be pushed out so if you have any money left over try picking up these if you go with the 3x120. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6835608004 They might look ugly but they push the heat out very well or if noise is not a problem then 120mm fans will do. I have a link in my sig if you want to see a few photos since I also have an 800D case. With the 800D case their are a lot of options you can play with for liquid cooling.
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Re: Liquid System Advise - CPU-370, PMP-450/S, HX-CU720V?

Postby Thaitje » Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:59 am

I have saw your pictures and it's a sick PC.
But i notice that you have also External units.
But the D800 is better for Liquid Cooling, want it is a bit on the big side.
And the 650D is a Midi-Tower.

And one PMP-450 on the bottom of the reservoir and that's enough?
It will flow through my whole system?
And in the future i want to get 2 graphics cards Crossfire or SLi
I probaly must take another pump extra for better flow or then still one pump enough?

Money is no problem, because i lay down 500Euro/702USD to make my liquid system.
And do you suggest other fans, there are good because i saw them everywhere on sites and they where highly recommended.
But the looks of the fan doesn't fit my game setup (personal).
Red graphics card, black coolers, blue mobo(Asus P8Z68).

Thanks again

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Re: Liquid System Advise - CPU-370, PMP-450/S, HX-CU720V?

Postby Ace0751 » Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:54 am

The 800D is a full tower case so you will have lots of room to do things. Since your liquid cooling just the CPU one pump is enough and when you get the waterblocks for your cards, it will still be enough as long as you don't use a lot of tubing and other things. As for the fans, the noctua fans do look ugly ill say that but the push the air out greatly and if you get that rad I showed you and the 800D case you won't be able to see them cause they will be on top and hidden. The look ugly and high priced but they get the job done and last for a while, I will be picking some up soon. But if you still don't want those fans the koolance fans get the job done but they are noisey. That's why I am switching to noctua cause of the noise and better flow, but its your choice both are good products.

If the 800D is still to big then the 650 will do just fine. But once you start liquid cooling it will become like a drug and your going to want to expand lol. Hope all this info helps and gives you a better view on what needs to be done.
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